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roaring's compiled a listing of some of the facts,which link to more facts, etc., of what's going on, mostly in relation to the fandom people getting hit by this.
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this was taken fromrosesatmidnight for the same program on a more personal standpoiont, though I edited it for my own words at the end. For the original go take action!
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roaring's compiled a listing of some of the facts,which link to more facts, etc., of what's going on, mostly in relation to the fandom people getting hit by this. Click the banner above to see that.
this was taken from
rosesatmidnight for the same program on a more personal standpoiont, though I edited it for my own words at the end. For the original go take action!1. Change the end greeting to your username
2 You can tweak the last paragraph so it's yours.
3. Spread it to your friends list by posting it to your own journal or linking here.
4. Also feel free to comment here with the textbox at the bottom of this entry.
Change your user name, personalize your comments in the last paragraph, and email this to privacy@livejournal.com and post it to your journal or profile.
Dear LJ:
I was quite appalled to hear about your mass-deletion of communities and journals with what you deemed as 'triggering' interests. Some of us have survived Rape. Some of us have survived abuse. And some of us wish to speak up and help others. How can we do that if you're taking away what we use to help those in need?
Have you even researched this "Warriors For Innocence"? Now what about the countless others who will not benefit from this deletion? What about the countless molesters who will now be driven further underground?
What about the countless members who have survived abuse, who have survived rape, and are now, finally, proud to stand up and say that they have... only for LJ to tell them that they can't?
Now what will we do? Now what source will we have to share our stories and our knowledge with others, now that your once-valuable source has been so ruthlessly and thoughtlessly taken away?
You were once one of the voices that helped make us strong as a united front.
And now your silence in the fight deafens me. Your silence speaks volumes, as much now as it will ever speak. Your silence is like a slap in the face to those of us who have survived the rape, survived the abuse, and are now, or will soon, learn to stand again, learn to live again, learn to function again.
As the friend of several people who have survived abuse and rape, I, personally, hope that you never experience it. And if that does happen, I hope that this very same silence never crosses your path.
Respectfully,
ladybrighid3333
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Date: 2007-05-30 04:54 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Idaho
Comment(optional): Thanks to this and to you, you've deleted some useless communities and given the real threat fair warning so that they can slink underground. You've given then immunity.. and I don't think that's fair. Take responsibility for your actions for once... because you are going to realize that there are going to be alot of people who suffer for this, and I'm not referring to the fandom journals.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:00 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Massachusetts
Comment(optional): I am extremely concerned for the survivors of abuse that have been targeted merely because they listed it, and while I in no way condone pedophilia I feel this is way too broad. While I understand that advertisers were pulling from the site (essentially, bullying on WfI's part) I have to voice my objection to this.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:02 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Nova Scotia, Canada
Comment(optional): I was quite shocked when I saw news of the deleted communities flooding my flist. I see no point to why it was done. This is just going to cause the people involved in such things to find other ways to get it. Deleting the communities isn't going to stop people from looking for what you've decided to try and take away from them.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:08 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Boston, Massachusetts
Comment(optional): Silence speaks volumes, but silence is constricting. LiveJournal has been about freedom of expression--about speaking out rather than keeping things in. Real threats have been given a warning by the communities who recognized this first through fandom. A lot of different and innocent people will suffer just because of the tracing of inappropriate icons and 'trigger words'. Where are those LiveJournal community values of self expression, diversity, community and privacy in a situation like this?
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:08 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Maryland
Comment(optional): You guys had the right idea, but wrong wrong execution. Like the real bad guys will stop just because you suspended their accounts. And now innocent people, both actual victims and people who had their FICTION accounts suspended are being punished. And for what? Because some right wing vigilante group threatened legal action? Way to take our side LJ and protect US, the people who pay for the service and help keep the site going. Now the rest of us are on the edge of our seats as communities and journals are suspended left and right without warning, wondering who else is going to be wrongfully persecuted with apparently no chance to defend themselves.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:20 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Wisconsin
Comment(optional): I used to think LJ was a safe place for my artwork and writing, for my expression. Never have I harmed anyone or anything with my things. While none of them would be considered "illegal" by your standards, I feel for those who fell victim to this shameless act of idiocy. WFI is nothing but a bunch of fools who want to destroy other people's happiness under the guise of a "good cause." Target sites that actually cause a problem. Leave the innocent alone.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:26 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Texas
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:28 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Saskatchewan, Canada
Comment(optional): Banning like, half the journals on LJ doesn't stop sexual predators - there are ten times more on instant messaging programs like MSN, AIM, ICQ, and others. As a future educator, I say this is actually the worst way of trying to crack down on them because it's such a small fraction of the big picture and you're fighting a pointless war. You're wasting your time and are not only losing customers and respect, but you look like total fools doing it. The best possible way to protect children is for the parents to get involved in a positive manner without taking rights away from innocent users like these goons are, and TALK to their children about what is out there and how to watch out for it.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:28 am (UTC)California, USA
Comment; I in no way support pedophilia, BUT THIS IS FICTION. Besides that, do you even realize what you are deleting? It's like you gave WoI the button to click for any 'hotword', not even seeing the way it is being used.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:33 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional):
Comment(optional): So much for investigating. :/
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:37 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Córdoba, Argentina.
Comment(optional): I'll just say... good motives, bad actions.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:40 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Colorado Springs, Colorado
Comment(optional):I came to livejournal with low expectations and that I would leave disgusted within a month, but then I found people in communities of fictional play. I do not participate or actually write fictional sex of any kind, I could at least note that just because they wrote such things did not mean they went out and did such in real life. That is the same as falling back on the argument that video games are the cause for the rate of violence to be on the rise in youths.
You point and blame and yet this suppose purge that has happened and is more then likely still happening as I type this has destroyed hours, to years of hard work and dedication of people who just so happened to have a harmful trigger word in their user info. Why is it now of all times when a group that has a shady background threatens you that suddenly you find all ways to make certain they are breaking TOS and thus warrant suspension.
I am hoping you will realize that not only did you harm innocent bystanders who use this place as social community, but you have hurt those who have actually survived such traumas you are attempting to purge from you server. The blatant entrance of guns blazing and torches flying not only caused panic, fear,and many rumors on what is going on, but you made certain the ones you are supposedly trying to purge have warning and burrow deeper into hiding.
If this is now how we are supposed to go about on your service that is supposed to protect free speech are now on the censorship wagon without actually properly investing your time in making certain you were in the right on this. I feel that there is no point to remain and will convince as many others to leave as well and not give monetary support as we have done for years once more to this place.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:40 am (UTC)Journal name: khitie_ethrin
Location(optional): Minnesota
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:42 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): North Carolina
Comment(optional): I grew up raped and abused, and do not support the people responsible for these actions, however I also do not support the idea of purging journals based on interests. Fiction and reality are two very different things, and I think you need to take a step back and understand which is which, and how you just made it easier for the real criminals to hide.
A lot of fanfiction contains adult themes, rape, incest, and other questionable content, but this does not make anything written in them illegal because it is fiction. Freedom of speech is our most important freedom, without it no other freedoms exist.
Think long and hard about what you're doing.
no subject
Date: 2007-05-30 05:48 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Wisconsin
Comment(optional): While I appreciate your dedication to internet safety, I must agree with everyone who has stated that your methods are WRONG WRONG WRONG. At the very least, you could have *temporarily* suspended any accounts you felt were objectionable pending further investigation; unless you plan on an LJ wide purge, there is no reason why you couldn't have made the time to review each case separately. This lack of attention to detail and subsequent mass deletion has led to the purging of legitimate discussion groups and groups that traded in what were clearly marked FICTIONAL stories. Innocent people are suffering because of your actions and anyone who was legitimately a threat has only been made aware of your efforts to catch them and will subsequently cover their tracks even better in the future. At the very least, you could have made a post on this issue. I agree with others that your silence so far is an insult to those caught in the crossfire.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:52 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Chicago, IL, USA
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:54 am (UTC)Journal name: clemmontine
Location(optional): Chicago
Comment(optional): It's called freedom of speach for a reason; because it's free. I just hope the people silenced here don't stay quiet.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:55 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Kansas
Comment(optional): People completely innocent of anything have had their journals deleted and purged and work of years deleted. You've caused the real predators to hide while you target the ones who aren't real in a sick sort of McCarthy witch-hunt. I hope you're happy.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:55 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Toa Alta, Puerto Rico
Comment(optional): While I am strongly against rape/abuse and all sorts of disgusting acts against others I must say this was a very very wrong movement. Wrong and just plain stupid. Just because some organization is pushing you to do what they think is right doesn't mean it's a must. Basically the organization and you (LJ) are violating our rights of expression by deleting some journals and communities that are not harming anyone.
Deleting and banning isn't going to stop those pedophiles and whatnot but you are upsetting greatly those of us who have either paid for LJ's services or have spent a great deal of time into it.
Not only that people should be aware of the dangers of the internet and how to react to certain things. In my whole opinion this was a rather ridiculous move by you LJ. Stand your ground and don't let some half assed organization push you around.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:56 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): USA
Comment(optional): Upon finding out that a community was deleted because of its reference to 'Lolita' (the novel), I quickly ran to edit my interests fearing that 'lolita' would be misinterpreted as a love for underage girls and not the novel. In addition to that, I was also quick to edit the interest of incest, which apparently according to SixApart and WFI can only be defined as illegal sexual abuse. I think that anyone else would realize that incest is, specifically, referring not only to rape but to a relationship between members of a family. The marriage between two cousins would be referred to as an incestuous relationship. Because my partner's aunt & her cousin are happily married, because they were consenting adults, I chose to show my support for their love because they did not find it in many other places. Furthermore, several stories - novels & comics alike - address the consensual (key word there) relationship between family members. Communities dedicated to those stories would then include those key theme words and yet now have to remove them because they are misinterpreted.
Furthermore, those groups for survivors of rape are also at risk because of their interest lists. How do survivors of rape find communities easily when we are limited to the number of words we can connect as 1 interest. Clearly, as the LJ example showed us, we cannot write in the interests section 'I like riding bikes' instead we write 'bike riding.' It only makes sense, then, that there would be interests such as 'rape' 'survival' 'rape survivors' 'support' etc.
Please look before you leap.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:58 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Melbourne, Australia
Comment(optional): What the fuck happened to freedom of expression>? By keeping silent on this matter, you, LJ, are condoning the actions of these wannabe Puritans. This is the 21st century. Not the Dark Ages. If you want to preserve your base, LJ, then get up off your fat fucking ass and do something. Otherwise, you're going to be short many customers. And that loss won't be entirely by wrongful bannings, either. Think about it. I'm sure someone has enough brain cells to work out the implications.
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Date: 2007-05-30 06:05 am (UTC)Journal name: goddesstio
Location(optional): Chicago, IL
Comment(optional): This is hurting so many more people than it is saving... I think you need to redo your system, lj.
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Date: 2007-05-30 06:08 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Massachusetts
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Date: 2007-05-30 06:09 am (UTC)Journal name: Dieinahole
Location(optional): Tennessee
Comment(optional): This is outrageous! They have more rights then the bloody offenders who perpetrate this violence! This used to be a forum where one could reach out and know they were not alone in the fight for closure. Your blatant disreguard for the rights of victims makes me sick! Go right ahead and give them a place to hide... Go head and give them amnesty when you could be helping rape and abuse victims by not shutting down communites and journals that cater to helping victims of this heinous crime.
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Date: 2007-05-30 10:12 pm (UTC)Journal name:rebelallie
Location(optional):CT, USA
Comment(optional):It seems like our country has truly gone crazy in the past few years. Those who would poke fun at how serious we can be are being fired, those who stand up for our rights are being thrown behind bars, those who commit no crime at all are attacked and those who only want to love are looked upon as sick, yet those moral warriors who censor, hurt, or punish anyone who they see as any kind of threat, even when there is no threat present, are punished and silenced. I hope I will not have to leave L.J., but it may be time to go.
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Date: 2007-05-30 06:10 am (UTC)Journal name:
Location(optional): Florida
Comment(optional): Wow, I'm totally safe seeing as my name is
With no due respect,